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On top of Kev’s suggestion I would also get the Dark Soldiersape from the Ebon quartermaster.ontinue to grind your Argentrusade rep to get that equment. Also drop someoin on the titanium spellshk gear (ringnk), and boned-framed brers from ation house. I would suggest taking out your 2 talent points from improved blessing of wisdom and put them bk into Satified Seals for therithae bonus. Mana regen is kind of blah right now and if a holy pally goes out of mana then they’re either way overhealing or dps is taking too long.
You need to work on your ehants. Get rid of the Spirit on your boots – please, before you finish reading this , go do it – now! Kev gave you good adve, run aouple of non-hero 80 dungeons to get the idea of healing and still get rep. You have a lot of greens and if you have money to burn thenhant them and add an eternal belt bkle with an Int gem, but they’ll be getting repled soon. There are some rep items youan get at honored; for instae Kirin Tor has a neloak at honored. The Wyrmrest brers at honored have less Int than yours but have a yellow sket so you wind up with more Int and haste instead of mp5. Stay away from mp5 (and spirit!). When you get revered with the Kirin Tor make sure you get the aanumhant for your helm. Here’s the link to the Totem Purifation Rod that Kev mentioned. Youan also get a Titansteel Guardianrafted. Take a look at YJ Mark’s most eellent Pre-Naxx Holy Paladin Guide on this website and profit.
thanks for the input guys as for the ehants i know there not the best but unfortantly the guild ehater has just gone on a four week wedding honeymoon in thearribean (how ionsiderate just when i needed him) and im not willing to pay realm pres for ehants of the ehanters if ian help it for gear that i hopefully will have upgraded befroe he gets bk
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ElMunoSage162
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Torzak wrote:In WoW, FF does more for physal attkers onloth or lightly armored targets than it does on heavier armored targets and then too, it does more for physal attkers the more armor penetration they already have. Well with thehange to ArP, this isn’t really true anymore. But as long as FF is still a fixed amount of armor removed, it’s tually going to provide the ext same amount of damage boost due to how damage resistae from armor works. Whether it be 300 or 3000 base armor, you’reausing the same net differee in damage taken (times when that differee takes the target to 0 armor notwithstanding). Based on what I know from tanking theory at 70, unless I’m mistaken or missedhanges sie 3.0 in how damage resistae from armor happens, while the peent delta on armor damage resistae goes down gradually the more of it you have, it’s tually still providing the ext same irease in your TTL point-for-point; 1000->2000 and 36000->37000 armor provide the ext same total bonus to your survivability. Thus it would stand to reason that the opposite is true, a drease of 610 armor (FF rank 6) is as efftive on a plate wearer as it is alothie. oiidentally this is also why ArP rating isn’t as good as it used to be; it redes a peentage of armor, so it’s less efftive the lower the target’s armorurrently is) There’s some oldhool math fromiderhelm somewhere that proves it, I’m not sure extly how to go about finding it though (myonntion from here to the oboards is atrious). It’s annotated on wowwiki (www.wowwikiomArmor#Armor_Damage_Redtion_Formula) but I wouldn’t blame anyone for not trusting that as a soue of detailed information. Your other points still stand valid with regards to mana and sh, just wanted to point that out Edited for minor typos and one andote

I use FF all the time, but then I also run as Feral. I am also typally the only Feral Druid in the raid, so the Boomkins and Trees have no reason toast it. When I tank I pull with it, and when I DPS I’ll throw it on whhever mob I’murrently shredding therap out of
As I started reading the , it reminded me of me in instaes below Lv50 where I healed a lot of instaes, though I wasn’t spced resto or boomkin. I did it largely bause of my RDM experiee. For all the non-FFXI gamers, that means Red Mage (Somewhat similar to Druid in the sense that itould do just about everything assuming you had gear for it) and more spifally,uring parties (in WoW talk: healing parties) and maintaining the spell Dia (similar efft as FF eept it also has a dot efft) on all or most of all targets pulled. I throw in the wholeuring vs healing bause I remember the first time I asked in WoW, “Am Iuring the party?” and then I darn near gothewed out for not using the right lingo! Then I saw the OP’s signature and it all made more sense haha. There’s a lot of differees between the two games. Sometimes playing in on what you know from another game will get you in on some lturing or worse, an undeserved bark of orders or asshewing. You see, in FFXI, a Red Mage worth their salt willast Dia on 95% of all targets. casionally there’s other things thatome up that require more attention and you find yourselfasting something else instead of Dia as more or less the first spell per pull. In World Of Waraft things are often a lot more faster ped and that’s by design. FF on most trash targets isn’t going to make a whole lot of differee to anyone eept the personasting in terms of using up that Globalool Down (theool down most every abilityspell triggers for alllasses that prevents you from using another abilityspell until thatool down hasleared) and then too, theost of mana. And for many folks, it’s not just theost of mana for that pull that they worry about. It’s also the down time between pulls waiting forasters to rover mana.

When i first when to Hellfireitadel I was healer andast faerie fire on one or two mobs per pull oe they were inombat. Mana was no issue. However I kept aggroing the mobs and dying and Iouldn’t work out why… I have been told faerie fire generates threat although I’m not sure how mh. Maybe that is what he wasoerned with. To be honest, the group that time in Hellfireonsisted of 3 DKs and a feral druid DPSing everything down with no set ‘tank’ so it was probably fairly easy for my threat to override theirs.
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HorsemouthGuru1321
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FFF only has ireased threatdamage in bear form.
Dosgamer wrote:I’m level 42 (feral sp but role in groups is healer) and I FF every melee mob weome ross. Faster fight should mean I need to do less healing right? Also, if everyone does more damage they gain additional threat right? So my last question is if Faerie firean overwrite any superior debuffs that it does not stk with?
No weaker debuffan override a stronger debuff.
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SinizineSage80
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It’s a bit of a waste on most trash mobs, but not freak out at you worthy.
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DosgamerSage85
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Lower armor = more melee damage = dead mobs faster + better aggro for tank. Mind you, FF isn’t a priority spell for me when I’m healing, so if the shyte hits the fan, I will pop it on the primary target but forego putting it on sondary targets while Ioentrate on keeping the tank and party alive. But if the party is on a roll and we’rehewing through mobs 2-3 at a time, yep, I’ll FF them all oe the pally tank has gathered them up. I haven’t yet pulled aggro with FF off the pally. In ft, the only one who typally does is our mage hehe. My typal tions duringombat in our instae runs (level 42 atm) are FF mobs, throw up hot(s) on tank, and dot the primary target while whking it with my stk. I may or may not put the dot on depending on how many we pull and how badly I think the pally will get beat up, but at least 50% of the time I’m adding damage. Good lk!

I’m level 42 (feral sp but role in groups is healer) and I FF every melee mob weome ross. We don’t have a warrior in the group (tank is a pally). Mana has not been an issue (pally buff, shaman totem) eept in big pulls (i.e., mistakes) and in those situations I will FF the primary target and any sondary targets that have more than half life when we get to them. I see no reason not to. When soloing as a kitty, I FFF after attking from stealth. I have no qualms about using it. =)
just as an fyi, sunder and faerie fire stk. expose armor and faerie fire stk. tell this to your physal dpslasses and theyll love you if you do it, as the less armor an enemy has the quker it dies. faerie fire does NOT stk withurse of rklessness however, just as sunder armor and EA dont stk with one another. as for me, generally i find that its something of a waste to put FF on anything aside from a boss; most stuff tends to die too fast.
If the eounter is healing-intensive (ie, make every Dount), I don’t see why a healer should ff. Otherwise I don’t really see the harm. I use it all the time when tanking or dpsing as feral. Even if there’s a hunter pet exposing armor an’t rall what that ability isalled but I know it overwrites ff) I use it just inase the pet drops or is on another target. Edit: Ah, it stks w sunder. So rah that. I’ve never had a warrior sundering in xp sie I tank or dps w a DK tank.
OP is level 43 cording to sig. So his mana pool sounds right. FF is a neat spell. Keep it up on mobs as per Dr. Quor’s prertion. I use it as feral to keepasters on me. Holds off healer aggro until DPS start attking the mob.

I was in a group rently running an instae and was attempting to keep any monster of reasonable strength enfeebled with faerie fire. For those that may or may not know its an ability that takes a pretty denthunk of the targets defense off and prevents it from doing a few other things. Afterasting the spell the party leader flped out saying I was wasting my mana. I thought my mana pool was fine at the time. In ft it was sitting at full and is about a 3.5k pool and I had innervation to fall bk on. Yet he freaked out and elaimed I was wasting mp then went ahead and showed how mh damage I was doing on theenter of the reen…. o.O Question… Is Faerie fire really a waste of mana? Personally I think a mob that dies faster is a mob that does less damage meaning that I have less healing to do. Right?
Why not use your feral faerie fire (assuming you are feral, sie you said your mana pool is 3.5k)? If you are aaster, it may be a “waste” bause there are others spells thatan beasted by others that do the same thing and dontost mana. Sie theyant stk, maybe your tank thought it was a waste. But he was a litlle “bihy” about it. He shouldnt had toomplain about it. At all.
It kinda depends on what your sp is and what your role was (if my healer wasasting ff I think I might be a little miffed unless the instae was a joke for us).
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ArexLovesPieSage903
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The times I go resto and I’m the only druid I’ll FF the bosses in 5 mans and 10 mans. But, 9 times out of 10 im with a warrior so they just sunder and I really dont do mh of anything.

i heard about starfall. sad, but needed. aoe me stun sks ass. having said that, it needs to beompensated in some way, as its now wayyyy too situational a talent for its 51-pt spot. id be fine making it a baseline ability learned at 60 and then repling the 51-pt with something more….moonkiny. but a dirt buff too it would be ne. id like to see more damage being done theloser the target is to the moonkin; would t as an anti-melee efft of sorts in pvp and eourage getting down in it in pve (something im rather fond of). the KShange is new tho. thats something unexpted and very pleasant at the same time. knowing that theharge stun from a warriorould halve the duration of a KS on me is just sexy.
I am ofourse talking about the elusive bear tank. Apparently on my server, Destromath, I am pretty mh the only one that plays Alliae. I have had like 2 healers in the last few days say, “Wow I haven’t healed a bear in a long time.” I also think that at least for one of those healers I was the last one as the name was familiar. I see plenty of Trees and Boomkins roaming around. I see Horde in Dalaran sp’d feral but theyould beats and usually are more DPS ilined when I inspt them. Same goes for Ally ferals I group with or seeruising around. So how about everyone else out there? Do you feel like you may be one of the few dedated bears on your server? I am just glad I don’t sk as that would be embarrassing to bears everywhere.
I have a 71 feral tank alt, only feral tank I have seen around the lower levels. I do know that my hunter and pallys grinds to 80 I have never had a feral tank. I find that sad, I used to love bears. now they are nowhere….

3 different BE Palladins in 30 minutes. I don’t know who I pissed off in the Paladin world, but they owned me before Iould blink.
When in battlegrounds, i use a pretty simple tt to survive and kill paladins as a balae druid. first off, this goes for anylass, u DONT want to beaught in moonkin form ever. The element of surprise is ur key to sces. You should either be mounted, inheetah form or inatform. so ur enemy has nolue youll be spamming wrath in aouple of sonds. 1: let themome to you 2: before they hit, get hots up, 90% of all paladins open with their stun, u should try to outheal as mh of their damage they do during this stun with ur hots. 3: after stun, hot up again, heal up 4: dots and kite, uselone and roots toreate distae an make them put hand of freedom onD 5: keep dotting and hotting till they are at about 60% health, at this point they should feel like its an easy win for them. 6:at form, sprint for about 3-4 s 7: roots, wrathnuke, this should either surprise them enouhg to get them down, if they are slow, or make them bubble You should have enough distae to not get hit during first sonds of bubble, the paladin will heal up during bubble and try to getlose to you after bubble, just keep rooting, dotting and hotting, till they drop below 70%, this is ur mark to drop treants and nuke like hell WIN! well, most of the time ;P
…or less stunning I should say.
worst 51 point talent in the game. it needs to be taking out and give us something useful like an instant stun or silee
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QuorSage7499
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